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Listen To “For Colored Girls” Conversation On The Shadow And Act Livecast

Earlier today, November 7th, myself, Sergio, Obsidienne, and Noelani chatted about For Colored Girls, via the Shadow And Act Livecast, and we took a few calls as well. Click the player below to listen if you missed it:

29 comments to Listen To “For Colored Girls” Conversation On The Shadow And Act Livecast

  • blkchik

    Can someone explain who is still getting back alley abortions in 2010? Planned Parenthood has plenty of resources. I would love to ask Tyler why this wasn’t updated for the times. Even the poorest most uneducated girl knows that you go to the doctor for an abortion. And why in the world did Whoopi’s character take her daughter to a back alley abortion woman. Roe v Wade was passed before that character was even born

    • NothingButAMan

      Thank you!! I don’t care what slum you live in, how poor you are or how religious your mamma is, that was just ridiculous! And yet, Macy Gray’s random but well executed cameo was very welcome to me…

    • Ishat

      Likely had to do with when the book was written in the late 1970s. Back alley abortions were still taking place then.

  • Jason

    We got more abortion clinics than liquor stores in the Black community.

  • “myself, Sergio, Obsidienne, and Noelani will be chatting about For Colored Girls, via the Shadow And Act Livecast”

    Wow, that cast is like the dream team of basketball fame. Will there be enough (basketballs) microphones?

    Anyway, I wouldn’t miss it for a million bucks… this should be good. It has all the ingredience for a great Sunday evening affair. Yep, with a great cast, a controversial movie and director, it has all the makings of a wonderful evening.

    Oh, I know most of you are loooon talkers, but if the moderator (Tambay?) looks at his console and sees the area code “563″, please allow the black hick from Iowa to say a few words.

  • Is there a call-in feature for this livecast?

  • Cordell

    Thanks everyone for answering my question during the podcast.

  • wiseandtrustworthy1

    i think this discussion has been pretty upsetting. i believe this movie is not a sister-sister movie, or a movie that serves as a repetition of previous films completed by tyler perry. i think this was a genius film, eloquently put together though connecting very complex material. it was well done.

    i’m saddened to hear gossip in this discussion as well about tyler’s alleged jealousy and dramatic skills that potentially led him toward doing this film. i thought this would be a discussion where great minds were coming together to embrace and own these issues while also constructively offering criticism or positive nodds to this production. it is my belief that if the film was not up to par, Ntozake Shange would have never proceeded with giving permission to tyler to go forth with sharing his interpretation through for colored girls.

    i think it is awesome that this film and others are being made to highlight and illuminate tremendous issues that are plaguing our society. there is a place for humor, romantic comedies, horror movies, drama, suspense, but i believe we need to open our minds, hearts to the suffering that is widespread and prevalent more than we know because issues such as those covered in this movie are easily denied and or avoided because it’s beyond our comprehension as human beings. at the same time, these traumas need to be exposed, discussed, and projected so there can be an increase in awareness, safety and peace in our society.

    well done tyler perry and actors and actresses of for colored girls. this film has touched my life and many others which made me feel proud and encouraged. this discussion has done the extreme opposite.

    wishing all of you the best and more as we all journey forward ~ peace

    • Ash

      Just because you disagree with what people have said doesn’t mean that you should be upset or that there aren’t “great minds” here. It means you disagree. It’s great you enjoyed the film many others did too. Don’t let differing opinions be a “downer” for you.

    • Sergio

      If you feel that way then you should have called in last night and we could have had a lively discussion.

      And as far as: “Shange would have never proceeded with giving permission to tyler to go forth with sharing his interpretation through for colored girls”
      Remember what I said last night about The Golden Rule? He who owns the gold, makes the rules? Shange was PAID for the rights of her work to be made into a film. Of course she gave Perry her permission. You think she let him do it for free out of the kindness of her heart?

      • Sergio

        P.S. You sort of sound to me like one of those who I mentioned last night. You know those who equate “blackness” with MISERY

  • blkchik

    @ Ishat, he put HIV in the film and it wasn’t around in the 70s. He could have still updated that situation, its not like abortion clinics are Spa’s, there is still ways to make it emotional

  • Great Podcast! Can’t wait for the next one.

  • Darkan

    I agree blkchik, downlow men wasn’t even something people spoke about in the 70′s but he made damn sure that topic was included as well!

  • LvFlg

    again. great discussion. i enjoyed it. it was really an intelligent exchange. disagreement is healthy. the earlier commentor shld not take disagreement so personally. S & A – keep up the good work.

  • pinksghetti

    I really enjoyed the podcast. It was a very intelligent, interesting discussion and you all have nice voices :) It made my last hour of work go by fast because I liked it so much. I will probably listen to it a few more times in the future.

  • You know what? I’m just tired of black men playing oppression olympics every time something remotely centered on black women surfaces and becomes popular, be it film or novel. Same crap, decade after decade. Why is there always this impulse, among black men, to weigh oppressions between black men and black women? This film was not an indictment of black men. It was an indictment of the may unfortunate aspects of our culture in America. It was an indictment of how hard and difficult it is, on all of us (men and women), to survive and retain our humanity in inhumane conditions. And let’s not try to deny that many of us live in truly inhumane conditions.

    And most black people do not associate black culture (or blackness) with misery. The idea of blackness may be associated with misery, but not the culture. My culture is associated with triumph over misery, with joy and love in the face of struggle. But that is life in general.

    This discussion just didn’t sit right with me at all: a lot of presumptions about people and people’s general views.

    So we’re tired of miserable black movies? Well, not to defend TP (cause I hated all his films prior to this one), but when he did joyful movies prior to this one people still complained. Honestly, I understood those complaint. But, I mean, can the man ever get a break? He does happy films and they are coonish. He does a serious film and it is miserable. I mean, come on.

    P.S. all the gossipy stuff about TP being jealous of Lee Daniels did nothing to for this discussion except reveal how presumptuous the discussion was. How in teh world can someone assume what another person is thinking (that TP is jealous of Lee Daniels). Did TP suggest it in anything he has said?

    Alas, I agree that Whoopi’s character came off as funny and I’m sure it shouldn’t have been. That was definitely a problem.

    • “But, I mean, can the man ever get a break?”
      His DYNASTY is worth nearly 300 million dollars. If that ain’t a “break” I don’t know what is.

      • Lol, AmazningKarma. I’m not even gonna contradict you on that because you are right.

        But I think you know what I mean: we, black intellectuals, seem hell bent on hating everything he does, so much that we’ll pull anything out of the bag to be critical about. This movie has its problems, but not the problems largely brought up in the blog talk show.

  • Jason

    Until Black women develop the maturity to watch these movies as movies–the artistic expression of ONE person instead of turning every whoa-is-me-I’s- a-po-Black-woman piece into Holy Writ we will have these problems. Black men are not going to sit back and let misandric Black females define us anymore than any other hostile group.

  • Zeus

    @Jason

    Remember the rule. Men have no place to criticize movies that are pro-woman. You are required to love the film. You MUST enjoy black male negative stereotypes in film because they say so.

    Now that you have been informed, act accordingly. :)