I interviewed Ava DuVernay just days after her brainchild, the African American Film Festival Release Movement (AFFRM) was announced, in January, and I encourage you to listen to that 40-minute conversation, if you haven’t already.

To listen to either show, use the player below. If you’d rather download the MP3 file to listen on your iPod, or other digital player, access the page for the livecast HERE.